Husband. Dad to 5. Student Ministry Pastor. Follower of Jesus. Yatta yatta.

HOW TO KEEP A CONVERSATION WITH A TEEN

Like many youth groups around the country, we’re launching our small groups this fall.  We also have made some changes based on learnings from the flow of groups last year.  As a result, we have decided that the first 10 weeks will be largely-if not almost exclusively- focused on getting to know our students.  Then in January, after the Christmas break, we’ll then build on those relationships and begin a process to dive more fully into the Scriptures together each week in a more “traditional Bible Study”.

But what this means in the short term is that from late September through Christmas, we’ll be spending a lot of time (like an hour or so) pouring into the life of just one student in each small group each night.  Not like a hot seat where a small group grills one member with questions, but more like a moment where we say, “We really want to get to know you more… but for reals.  So tell us all about yourself.”

If the small group you lead is made up of outgoing bubbly teenage girls, well that might be all you need.  You’ll be lucky if you get them to stop talking 60 minutes later with that one intro.

But if you’re leading freshman guys, it’s gonna take some more work.

So in order to help, we put together a packet of stuff to keep a conversation going with a student.  Here’s 6 tips we’re using to train our leaders.

START YOUR SMALL GROUP EACH WEEK WITH A BUCKET TESTIMONY.  Pick an item (bucket, purse, backpack, suitcase, basket, etc) and have a different person each week come with 10 items inside.   As they pull each item out, they tell you why they put it in there and what it means to them.  As leaders, you do this first, choosing a wide range of items from serious to funny and set the tone.  Then have someone volunteer or choose a student who can do this next week.  Don’t forget to call and remind them in the days leading up to your next meeting so they don’t forget.

EMBRACE TANGENTS:  If they tell you their favorite food is their grandma’s French toast, ask them to tell you more about their Grandma.  Take the bait and run with whatever other material they give you.

ASK OPEN ENDED QUESTIONS:  Avoid questions that can be answered with yes/no.  Try why, how, and when questions instead of “Do you like _________”  kind of questions.  Try things like:

  • “How did that make you feel?”
  • “Why do you like that?”
  • etc..

DON’T GIVE UP:  It takes about 6 questions before they even think you really care.  Here’s a set of common questions that are essentially intro questions whenever you meet a student in our ministry.  Keep going when these questions are done:

  • Hey, How are you?  
  • What’s your name?
  • What school do you go to?
  • How did you hear about our youth group?  
  • What do you like to do in your free time? 

PLAY DEVIL’S ADVOCATE:  Don’t do this with sarcasm, but feel free to push at a student’s answers to get them to talk more.   If they say “God is so good”, you could say “How do you know God is good? Would you say that to a friend whose mom was diagnosed with cancer? ”   Or if they say, “I think sex before marriage is wrong.”  You could say, “Ok.  So do you think people should get married just to have sex?”  etc…  A great time to do this is when a student says something that appears to have unanimous agreement in your group but you also know the rest of the world outside this group will not necessarily agree.

GIVE SPACE:  Let your question sit before you follow up with another question.  Sometimes rapid firing a question is fun.  Other times, it just shuts them down.  Embrace the silence and give them some time to think about their answer.  If you do break the silence, try clarifying your question before abandoning it or thinking they are not going to answer.

Additionally, we also gave our leaders a couple of sheets with tons of other ideas to ask about and resources to keep the conversation going. Some more of them will be added soon to my Small Group Administrative Tools on Download Youth Ministry in an update shortly.  You might want to pick them up, and a bunch more stuff you might find helpful in small groups if you’re launching this fall and want some more ideas or tools.

Praying for great conversations and deep relationships in my ministry and yours.

IF IT AIN’T BROKEN

If it ain’t broken…  you probably have one eye closed.

In my world, the broken is part of my life.  It’s everywhere.

  • 2 weeks ago my dishwasher broke and destroyed my kitchen cabinets.
  • I now have broken cabinets and I re-installed my chipped and stained 25 year old sink in 2×4’s. 
  • my truck’s power steering is broken
  • my wife’s car has a fan that only works of mach 5.  settings 1-4 no longer work.  So it’s all air or no air.  The back glass latch is busted.  The passenger door spring is busted.  
  • my yard sprinklers are still busted and we have watered by hand all summer cuz I don’t have the time or money to fix them yet. 
  • my wife’s macbook mousepad is broken.
  • my boys have broken lamp shades in their bedrooms from various “events”.
Do I need to go on?  Let me just assume you get the picture.  The list is much longer… 
Truth is, the same is true of my youth ministry.  I could make an equally long list of stuff that is broken in various programs, a trip that is not working, a mindset we need to shift, a facility change that needs to take place. I could go on for days about what I think could and should be. 
I have a list of the broken in me, in my family…. pretty much anything. Stuff is both working and broken all around me.
So with this reality and for my own peace and sanity’s sake, I’ve decided a few things about the broken… regardless of where in my life I find it. 
SEE THE BROKEN THROUGH THE “YEAH, BUT LOOK AT WHAT THIS COULD BE” LENSES:  Anybody without a blind eye can point out the problems.  They super easy for me to see too.  But I need to celebrate the potential around me and look toward what could and should be instead of what is and is not.  I need my eyes looking forward and up.
DO SOMETHING:  With every day, I become more and more convinced that the tortoise really does beat the hare.  People get physically, emotionally, financially, mentally, spiritually… healthy one step at a time.  The best way to fix my house or myself is to make continual, methodical, slow progress in the right direction.   Maybe I can’t solve all my problems or fix all the broken, but I can make movement towards repair.  Pull one weed.  Do 10 sit ups.  Resist the temptation to buy that one item.  Send that one encouragement note.  One day.  Small steps in the right direction. 
DON’T BE COMPLACENT, DO BE CONTENT.  I need to not exchange working toward the best for being content in the present.  Sure, my kitchen looks like someone bombed it.  Actually, it looks like someone took a sledge hammer to it.  Which I did.  But anyway, the sink works and we now have a temporary cupboard/counter top to buy us some time.  So I can be discontent until I put a more “permanent solution” back in place or I can make movement towards my preferred future while being content with how God has provided today.  
The broken seems to be here to stay in this temporary world I live in.  So my goal is not to rid the world of  it (this is impossible).  Instead, my goal is movement towards redeeming the broken for the best…. one day at a time.  
Game on.  

TIME VS ENERGY

Well, summer’s pretty much done in my world now. Everyone- including me- is headed back to school soon. So I guess it’s time to blow off the dust from the keyboard and spread some blog love. 
As a starter, I think I’ll blog the stuff that I was reminded of while watching a simulcast of the Willow Creek Global Leadership Summit last week.  Our church hosts it annually and I think it was at least the 10th time I’ve watched the summit in this way.   I set aside some time to process my learnings afterwards and as I did, I also tried to see where my current thoughts intersected with some past notes I had taken.

Bill Hybels, the founder of this summit and the lead pastor at Willow Creek Community Church in the suburbs of Chicago was, like normal, the first to speak.  He broke his talk basically into 3 mini-talks of sorts, each with it’s own introduction and conclusions.  But the first reminder/learning that stood out to me as I reviewed was his last section were he made this statement:

“Time is not the leaders most valuable resource, it’s energy.”

As a read previous notes, I was reminded that in 2005, a guy named Jack Groppel spoke at the Summit on the subject of life management and he said something very similar.  He agreed that as leaders, we are pressured to consider the cost of our time and that we work hard at managing it.  But instead of tracking our time, he too said we should actually be tracking our energy investments and expenses.  Groppel said that, 

“Energy is finite.  Humans run out of energy.  Therefore great leadership is mobilizing, focusing, and renewing energy.” 

For Hybels, he suggested that this could be done by narrowing and focusing the field of what we are trying to do in the first place.  He challenged leaders to look to the next 6 weeks of their life and come up with their top 6 initiatives that they needed to do that were “above and beyond” their normal job descriptions.  He argued that this would help leaders to propel what they lead and manage where their energy is spent at the same time.  He even said that the clarity this would bring, would generate energy, where a myriad of conflicting tasks otherwise might just drain.  
As I thought about this, I became both exited to be focused and also pretty overwhelmed with the thought of 6 more things.  Especially above and beyond things and especially if I compartmentalized my life and only did them at work, ignoring some of the implications that my home, family, and personal life have on the big picture as well.  
But as I read the notes I took on Groppel back in 2005, I noticed that he also said that the number one area church leaders sacrifice is “self care” and that you can’t give what you don’t have.  I let that check sink into my soul and made a list of 5 things I want/need to do personally in the coming weeks that affect the bigger picture of my life and ministry.  Here they are: 
  1. BODY/SOUL:  Take care of me by getting back into a regular routines.  I need to revaluate my reading, writing, sleeping, exercise, and eating habits to insure I’m managing my energy flow (both in and out) wisely.  
  2. KIDS:  Restart my one-on-ones with my kids now that school is starting again.  
  3. WRITING: Finish my second book, “Criticism Bites: the fine art of listening to, responding, and even learning from your critics.”
  4. UT OH:  Solve the immediate problems caused by a dishwasher that leaked for months without us knowing it (which we discovered yesterday) and basically totaled the kitchen.  Develop a short and long term remodel/budget plan to repair it.  
  5. GET HELP:  Find, empower, and utilize the help of both paid professionals and volunteers to join me in these things, personally expending energy only on what God has specifically asked or gifted me to do- and delegating the rest to others who can and yearn to help.  
There you go. That’s my list.  Maybe you’d benefit from the same exercise, considering where you both spend and replenish your own energy.  If so, go ahead, grab some paper and give it a go.  

MY NOT-SO-ONLINE SUMMER

Well, as happened last year, this year will be a repeat.  Blog is going silent through the summer.  I love to write and read together with youth pastors and the few non-youth ministry peeps who frequent this blog.

But for the curious or those who want to pray for me…  here’s why:

  • HIGH SCHOOL/COLLEGE CAMP: I ran a mulit-church camp that we host at Pt. Loma Nazarene last week.
  • SUMMER FUN CAMP: I’m joining my generations team staff for a week with “summer fun camp”- think VBS on steroids at our church next week.
  • SUMMER SUNDAYS: Every Sunday in July and August we have an after church high school bonding event for some sweet Summer Sundays experiences. 
  • HOUSEBOAT TRIP: I’m taking my son and 3 of his high school friends and teaching for a week at a Shasta house boat trip in Nor Cal for a high school ministry. 
  • FAMILY CAMPING: I’m taking my family for a 2 week camping trip with friends and family.  One week in Big Basin and one week at Trinity Lake
  • CONCERT: I’m taking my mom to go see Neil Diamond in concert.  Stubhub says there’s 194 tickets if you want to join us…ha ha. Gonna be awesome. 
  • BOOK #2:  I’m trying to finish my second book on criticism before I start coaching 2 soccer teams and returning for my last year of seminary in the fall.   My first book, “As For Me and My Crazy House” got a sweet review today. Thanks Austin. 
So… I clearly have a very full summer and the blog will be one of the things that I have to let fall.  Twitter will be my only outlet, as beyond 140 characters is out of reach during this summer season.
See you in late August.

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It just got a HUGE face lift last week, all the graphics and downloadable art was totally updated and revamped. It has some great content and is inexpensive enough to try out stuff without breaking the budget. 


I have several resources on the site.  Some for behind the scenes and administrative stuff, some small group materials, and a few teaching series.  


In the next few weeks i’m sending 3 more teaching series to the site and an awesome resource of learnings for when the big church stuff comes your way and you’re asked to plan the all church baptisms and such.  You know, like those times when your job description expands from youth ministry to everything else.  Stuff like what to do if you have been asked to do a wedding or are called on to do a funeral or even a resource for when you have to engage in some dreaded church discipline for someone who is simply way out of line.   


But regardless of whether it’s stuff I wrote or Doug or Josh or Matt wrote, there’s tons of great stuff there and more to come each week.  So go ahead and bookmark it and let your life get easier at a price that might be against minimum wage labor laws in 13 countries.